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RRabbit42 Masterer Printerer

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 4559 Location: Hither and yon amongst the Puget Sound region. Mostly yon.
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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"If you make a late payment, we'll charge you $39 and may raise your interest rate to the maximum of X%".
Talk about an impotent threat. They already raised the APR to that amount.
Just adding more insult to the injury. Only about 2 or 3 more payments and it's gone. I've thought it over and I'm closing the account. It's not worth it to even have a tiny amount floating on the card just to keep it open and keep that credit history. I will do just fine with one less card. _________________ When you get to the checkout without enough money, do you tell them you're money illiterate? When the cops pull you over, do you tell them you're car illiterate? -- TF
When you decide to be an idiot, you might not want to CC: management. -- pj5081 |
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Rizak the Really Horrible Roseum Natium

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 16348 Location: Dead center of funny.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:06 am Post subject: |
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US ONLY:
Today is the day that most of the consumer protections from their new Credit Card Act of 2009 comes into effect.
* Bills can be paid online or over the phone without incurring a processing fee.
* Customers must be over 60 days late on payments before their interest rate can be raised on balances; if the rate is raised, it will go back to the lower rate if customers make the minimum payment on time for six months in a row.
* Overlimit fees can't be charged unless cardholders are told that the purchase will put them over their limit and they authorize it to go through anyway.
* If your card has more than one interest rate on balances, then payments must be applied to the highest interest rate first. _________________ In order to solve your problem, I must use my brain.
Yes, my WHOLE brain. |
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dakboy Tech Whore

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 11409 Location: New New York
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Rizak the Really Horrible wrote: | | * Bills can be paid online or over the phone without incurring a processing fee. | In 10 years of paying at least one credit card bill online, I've never incurred such a fee. Haven't even seen it. Who does this? Capital One?
| Rizak the Really Horrible wrote: | | * Overlimit fees can't be charged unless cardholders are told that the purchase will put them over their limit and they authorize it to go through anyway. | It'll be interesting to see how this one plays out. Will there by any responsibility on the retailer's part to inform the customer? Or will the retailer have to wait & see if they get their money while the CC company calls the customer after the purchase to authorize it? If the customer says no, what happens? _________________
| ANHWizard wrote: | | Just one more word out of you-just ONE-and I swear that I will go over to your office, unplug your keyboard, and see just how many hits with a keyboard does it take to get to the juicy tootsie roll center that is your brain. |
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RRabbit42 Masterer Printerer

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 4559 Location: Hither and yon amongst the Puget Sound region. Mostly yon.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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The main article is on Yahoo! Finance, but here's some highlights:
Credit card statements will now have notices about how long it takes to pay off a balance when you make the minimum payment. The example given is that $3000 at 14% takes 10 years.
As reported before, we can expect annual fees to come back. Citigroup will put a $60 annual fee on many cards April 1st.
Paper statements may now cost you $1 as a processing fee.
Fifth Third Bank will be charging a $19 inactivity fee for customers who don't use their card for 6 months.
JPMorgan Chase now charges 5% instead of 3% for balance transfers.
On the plus side, new limits go into effect for college students and others under 21, so there should be fewer instances of "give them a card regardless of if they can pay it or not".
| Quote: | In the meantime, there is one group of consumers that banks will chase after -- those who carry a balance from month to month for at least part of the year, and pay their bills on time. They're the most profitable and least risky group for banks.
Also a target customer: anyone willing to do more business with the bank that issues their card, say opening a checking or savings account or taking out a mortgage.
"What we want is a deeper relationship with our customers," said Andy Rowe, an executive vice president with Bank of America's card business. Customers willing to stick with a single bank may even be able to get annual fees waived or get a better interest rate, he said. "That's where the competition will be." |
Some of this "chasing after the least risky group" came last year when companies decided to punish good customers like me by raising the interest rate to get as much money in as soon as possible. But that last paragraph is a reminder: you still can talk to them about getting the interest rate dropped back down. |
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RRabbit42 Masterer Printerer

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 4559 Location: Hither and yon amongst the Puget Sound region. Mostly yon.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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JPMorgan Chase has decided to stop participating in the FDIC's Transaction Account Guarantee Program. It comes into effect if you have more than what the FDIC covers ($250,000 per contributor).
Accounts affected: non-interest bearing transaction accounts (including "certain checking with interest (NOW) accounts") and IOLTA, IOLA and IOTA accounts
Full details here. It's not specifically about credit cards, but is still worth knowing about. _________________ When you get to the checkout without enough money, do you tell them you're money illiterate? When the cops pull you over, do you tell them you're car illiterate? -- TF
When you decide to be an idiot, you might not want to CC: management. -- pj5081 |
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RRabbit42 Masterer Printerer

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 4559 Location: Hither and yon amongst the Puget Sound region. Mostly yon.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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What a "surprise". My final payment to that card was delayed 2 days as "pending". I don't know if my bank has the ability to check the history of a transaction before it is posted, but my guess it wasn't from their side.
Good thing I got the payment in a few days early. _________________ When you get to the checkout without enough money, do you tell them you're money illiterate? When the cops pull you over, do you tell them you're car illiterate? -- TF
When you decide to be an idiot, you might not want to CC: management. -- pj5081 |
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Nick Burns Scriptor Cantus Digitalis

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Posts: 23230 Location: 2445 miles west of New York, NY
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Just keep an eye on those credit charges/fees!
Macy's Adds Monthly $2 'Educational Interest' Charge To My Credit Card Bill | Quote: | Since November or December 2009, Macy's has been adding a $2 charge to every bill. Fine print on the back indicates that they will add a minimum interest charge of $2 "in each billing period in which the INTEREST CHARGE resulting from application of the periodic rate would have been less than 2.00."
In other words, even if you pay your bill in full every month, they will add the $2 charge. The catch is that if you notice the charge and subtract it from your total balance due, then you don't have to pay it. But if you pay it by accident, then they hold the $2 as a credit balance on your account. In other words, you make an interest-free loan to Macy's.
To get back the $2, either you have to call them or mail back your Macy's bill (i.e., you're paying for a stamp in order to get back your $2).
When I called Macy's customer service about this, they explained that the charge was "educational interest." I told them to send me the $2 and to close my account. |
Sounds downright seedy to me. _________________ Not as Lean
Not as Mean
But still a Marine
Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Man may have believed missed. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
pro·gram·mer (proh-gram-er) - (n): An organism that can turn caffeine into code. |
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MikeP Ambiguusum Facetia

Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 2572 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Nick Burns wrote: | | ...Sounds downright seedy to me. | Sounds downright illegal to me.
If it's not illegal then it certainly should be. _________________ It's hard to be a prima donna with your arm up a cow's backside - msualexis |
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Nabiki Cattus Grex

Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 2604 Location: The granola state
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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My credit union sent me a letter telling me that they had checked my credit and were adjusting my interest rate. Starting next month my interest rate has been lowered to 8.99% _________________ "I wonder if it's lighter because we folded it?"
"I heard you say that, but I didn't know you meant it!" |
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RRabbit42 Masterer Printerer

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 4559 Location: Hither and yon amongst the Puget Sound region. Mostly yon.
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I don't know if it's coincidence or the economy getting slightly better, but the credit card I just paid off has started sending me balance transfer offers again. I'm betting on "we're about to lose him so we better entice him to stay".
As it turns out, I will be keeping that card in case I start looking for a house in the next 6 months. That seems to be the cut-off for when closing an account can hurt you. So, I'll make a few piddling little purchases with it just to keep some activity on it and see if I can get the interest rate dropped back down.
It feels pretty good to be in control of how I want to use this account, rather than being stuck with it looming over my head. _________________ When you get to the checkout without enough money, do you tell them you're money illiterate? When the cops pull you over, do you tell them you're car illiterate? -- TF
When you decide to be an idiot, you might not want to CC: management. -- pj5081 |
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Woodman668 Champion of the Psyche
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1717 Location: Where I is.
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:21 am Post subject: |
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If you are getting rid of all your credit why does it matter if your credit rating takes a hit for getting rid of your credit?
And if your FICO score is supposed to show how responsible you are why does it go down if you cancel credit? _________________ Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam |
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dakboy Tech Whore

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Posts: 11409 Location: New New York
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| Woodman668 wrote: | | And if your FICO score is supposed to show how responsible you are why does it go down if you cancel credit? | Because that's not what it really represents. Your FICO score is in large part your debt to credit ratio (how much of your available credit are you using?), and your payment history (do you keep up with your payments?).
You could be in the hole for $50K in credit card debt, but if you've got $75K in unused credit still out there, and make all the minimum payments on time, your FICO score will be perfectly fine - despite being irresponsible with the credit. _________________
| ANHWizard wrote: | | Just one more word out of you-just ONE-and I swear that I will go over to your office, unplug your keyboard, and see just how many hits with a keyboard does it take to get to the juicy tootsie roll center that is your brain. |
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Woodman668 Champion of the Psyche
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 1717 Location: Where I is.
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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That was kind of my point though, it just shows how much money they can make off of you. If you were to pay that card off in two payments and cancel it your score would go down.
My point is if you are cancelling credit, why should you care if the score goes down. And if you are in a decent position to buy a house right now then you can deal with the mortgage agent on stuff like that anyway.
They'll look at your score and say, hey, looks like you closed some accounts, and you'll say, why yes I did. And they'll ask why or you will volunteer, Frankly, with buying a house coming up I wanted to remove all other possible sources of debt.
If your mortgage agent doesn't take the time to talk to you like that run and get another one. Don't get a mortgage from someone who grants a mortgage based on a multiple choice questionairre and a FICO report. _________________ Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam |
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Rizak the Really Horrible Roseum Natium

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 16348 Location: Dead center of funny.
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry about it. They'll keep sending you new card applications and pre-approved ones for at least 10 years after. _________________ In order to solve your problem, I must use my brain.
Yes, my WHOLE brain. |
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RRabbit42 Masterer Printerer

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 4559 Location: Hither and yon amongst the Puget Sound region. Mostly yon.
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Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Woodman668 wrote: | That was kind of my point though, it just shows how much money they can make off of you. If you were to pay that card off in two payments and cancel it your score would go down.
My point is if you are cancelling credit, why should you care if the score goes down. And if you are in a decent position to buy a house right now then you can deal with the mortgage agent on stuff like that anyway.
They'll look at your score and say, hey, looks like you closed some accounts, and you'll say, why yes I did. And they'll ask why or you will volunteer, Frankly, with buying a house coming up I wanted to remove all other possible sources of debt.
If your mortgage agent doesn't take the time to talk to you like that run and get another one. Don't get a mortgage from someone who grants a mortgage based on a multiple choice questionairre and a FICO report. |
This particular card has the highest credit limit so if I close it, it would have the biggest impact on my credit score.
To pull some numbers out of the air, if I had two cards with a combined available credit of $10,000 and owed $2,000, then my debt-to-credit ratio is 20%. If I closed one of them with $6,000 credit limit, then my debt-to-credit ratio jumps to 50% ($2000 owed, $4000 limit). No matter how responsible I am or my past credit history, that doesn't look good.
If I did close that account, I wouldn't have any hesitation to say why. And don't worry. I'll be selective when I go looking for a mortgage. It was "creative" financing (and a lot of greed) that got us into this mess. I'm steering clear of that road. _________________ When you get to the checkout without enough money, do you tell them you're money illiterate? When the cops pull you over, do you tell them you're car illiterate? -- TF
When you decide to be an idiot, you might not want to CC: management. -- pj5081 |
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